Hilarious attack on VB by Hoopy horrors
Written by OpportunityKnox
Thursday, 09 April 2009
The Admin and writers at Vanguard Towers had a good guffaw this morning at
a ridiculously vicious attack on our website by the powers that be at
Celtic fan site etims.com. It appears that our recent run of hard
hitting articles has hit something of a raw nerve to those of a certain
viewpoint who carry a phobia about the truth.
It must irk those who fear Rangers fans and the Unionist community from
having a voice, and being able to articulate it in a manner, which
upsets those who seek to suppress truth. As a piece of black propaganda
it clearly falls short of the general requirement, to convert neutrals
to believe a certain viewpoint.
Like many enemies of our culture, the propaganda
against our site, and the wider Rangers community is filled with lies,
revisionism, mistruths, and the odd misquote. The article starts with
some pseudo-intellectual waffle about the power of the internet, loaded
with the intellectual superiority complex that some of the extreme
Republican apologists have learned ever so well from the An Phoblacht
guide to propaganda, and used on a regular basis by Norman Spiers,
amongst others in the Scottish media.
As we dip further in to the article, the humour remains, but becomes a somewhat
transparent veil covering the underlying hatred for what this site is
achieving on a daily basis. Well, on behalf of the site, I’d like to
thank Etims for confirming that we are indeed getting under the skin of
those who despise free speech and debate.
To go back to the article, it goes on;
“Think about it, had it not been for the Internet the likes of the Rangers Supporters Trust would have remained grumbling in the Boyne Water Gentleman’s Club far from the public’s hysterical gaze, we at the E-tims would have remained in dead end jobs in the sex trade (although
Hector was getting a little bit on the heavy side for the table
dancing), and the likes of the contributors to Vanguard Bear would
be...well I dunno...possibly hidden in a secret bunker in the middle of
the Campsies, all dressed in camouflage army surplus, fondling air
rifles and laying survival plans for the day Proud Britannia was
overrun by the Communistic-Fenian hordes of the godless undermensch”
Lovely, isn’t it?
I have to laugh when I see those pseudo-intellectuals showing off their
knowledge of foreign languages, while attempting to relate you to
Hitler’s regime wiping out what he saw as sub-human. Particularly
interesting is the use of the term “Communistic-Fenian”. We have to
presume that they are using the “fenian” term in some up to date
context that they’ve invented themselves, as the Fenian movement itself
had no such political affiliations.
In fact, while the fenian movement as an official group was all but finished by the late 1880s, the Republican movement was unofficially recognised as the Fenian
Movement for many decades, and the term became synonymous with all
republican groups wishing Independence from Britain.
They certainly couldn’t be referring to Republican “hero” Sean South, who
had his foot firmly in the far right camp, with his membership of extreme Fascist group Maria Duce.
The article continues with this little gem;
“Let's start with the name of the site, "Vanguard Bears", it does sound a
little right-wing iffy like the racist white supremacist website
Vanguard News Network. The site name is hardly an unfortunate
coincidence, it's a rather crude attempt to infer a connection between
intolerant mindsets, and is one of the weakest aspects of this
satirical product.”
You can guess the continuing theme here of right-wing association, laughable as it is.
Truth is that the Vanguard Bears name came from more humble origins. We
pride ourselves on being a site that does “what it says on the tin”;
namely, being at the vanguard (or forefront) of the fight to defend our
club from our enemies. It’s fairly straightforward, even for the
conspiracy theorists at etims.
Further merriment arose at Vanguard over this piece of sheer fantasy.
“It would be a crying shame if anyone were to belittle the rest of this
truly gifted site by dwelling on the rather tasteless linkage to
dubious sites of a similar name”
A quick google on “vanguard” returns on its first page nothing remotely
dubious, unless you are offended by Playstation games, or healthcare
companies. Our own links page you’ll find a few Rangers sites, and
some Ulster Scots sites.
http://www.vanguardbears.co.uk…task=view&id=55&Itemid=32
Further evidence that the mask of intellectual superiority is somewhat
misplaced was to be found in this incoherent waffle about Blue Tumai’s
article:
“How for example could anyone read the following statement and not feel deeply relieved that the spirit of Bill Hicks’ cutting satire was alive and well: “So 15,000
guys getting pissed, singing anti-English songs and sh*gging hookers is
to be boasted about? Can you see why I’m embarrassed? Our country
promote these idiots and what an example to any children reading.
Replace the ’cowards’ [Tartan Army] with Rangers fans and what would
the media slant be? The ‘cowards’ were amongst our biggest critics
after we left litter in Barcelona yet our behaviour was nowhere near as
bad, plus we had no arrests unlike the 7 Scotland fans arrested in
Amsterdam".
Referencing Bill Hicks was the cause of even more mirth at Vanguard towers, given that the genius comedian was one of the biggest vocal critics of the Catholic
Church.
“I'm sorry if any of you are catholic.
I'm not sorry if you're offended, I'm actually just sorry by the fact
that you're catholic."
“If child molestation is actually your concern, how come we don't see Bradley tanks knocking down Catholic churches?”
I digress.
The paragraph is intended to question why Blue Tumai would have the
temerity to point out how the Tartan Army’s behaviour, is feted by the
Scottish Media, while there was much mock anger over Rangers fans
leaving some litter in Barcelona.
Clearly those at etims do not like comparisons, and usage of facts when defending the
reputation of the Rangers support. Funny thing is, of all the
comparisons to use, BT actually let TGFITW off very lightly, as his
comparison was only with the media representation of the Tartan Army.
If he were actually to use comparisons to the Celtic travelling support
in either of the cities in his comparison, it would highlight an even
starker difference.
Amsterdam? Celtic’s fun loving hordes last visited in 2003, where one Celtic supporting
gangster was shot by another, just hours before the shell suited
degenerates ran amok outside the Amsterdam Arena.
Barcelona? While 20,000 bears turned up, with no fanzone laid on, and no arrests,
only to face negative headlines about litter on their return. When 6000
hooped hordes turned up, they returned to be told by the Barcelona
mayor they were the best travelling support in the world, while two
were arrested for serious assault (with one since jailed), and another
60 received cautions for minor offences.
While still on the subject of Barcelona, the author has clearly got in to some rhythm here, and goes on:
“After all, if ‘leaving a bit of litter’ is a euphemism for turning the city
centre into an overflowing latrine (something of a Rangers supporter
hallmark) then yes, that’s all that happened. The Spanish newspaper El
Mundo Deportivo clearly failed to understand the cultural differences
when it bawled: "[To Rangers supporters] Stay and vomit in your own
home, urinate in the corner of your own sitting room, fight with your
own neighbours Celtic (who deserve a medal for putting up with you) and
foul the streets of Glasgow. Don't come back to Barcelona, you're an
embarrassment. And while we're at it, don't play in the Champions
League. You're not up to scratch, either on a sporting or human level.
There are noisy supports who, even though they drink large quantities
of beer, make friends. Not you lot, because you turn everywhere you go
into dumps. You are undesirables."”
Notably, he fails to mention that the author of that piece was the Spanish
partner of the “Celtic Minded” website owner. Nor does he mention the
Celtic fans arrested in Barcelona, nor does he mention the small matter
of Celtic fans defacing the heart of Milan on a previous trip abroad.
Yes, the amnesiac tendency of your average hate filled apologist across the
city is back. Not that it ever went away. They just forgot about it…
You really have to read the following to get the measure of just how
much our website is infuriating these people.
“Vanguard Bear really is an amazing site though, its parody of the lunatic fringe
of the Rangers support (the ones the RST won’t pass the port to) is
awe-inspiring, however it has to be said that perhaps they’ve overdone
it a little bit. Viewing the list of articles on the main page for
example we find: “Scum Trust”, “Media Scum”, “Rangers Hating Scum”,
"Pavement Crack Walking Scum" (ah ok I made that one up) and a whole
litany of the most vociferous, ill-informed, cerebrally-challenged,
foaming-mouth raving to have burst onto the public domain since Rupert
Murdoch bought The Sun.”
Without asking our readers to go to the links page to see all our articles (there are 48
in all), they are indeed correct, about the 3 articles mentioned. If
you happen to read these articles, what you will find will more than
justify the article titles, namely:
Scum Trust – An opinion piece on a particularly outspoken Celtic Supporters
Trust representative, shortly after the person in question defended the
Celtic Support’s right to sing in support of the Provisional IRA. Why
beat about the bush when talking about the support of bigot murderers?
Rangers Hating Scum – Voicing the widely held opinion (apparently shared by
etims) that the Sun newspaper is written by scum, in printing 18 pages
of nonsense about Barry Ferguson & Allan McGregor, where Willhelm
puts it in the context of that week’s more important topics, both in
Scotland, and across the globe. I’m sure the irony of the comparison of
our site, to the very newspaper we were attacking is not lost on you.
Media Scum – Voicing the opinion that sections of the Media in Scotland are
scum for their vendetta against the Rangers support. Ably assisted by
some facts, it clearly irks etims, and so it should.
It get’s funnier. As the writer gets in to rant mode (about rants) he goes on:
"Article after article is crammed full of side-splitting paranoia that rages
this way and that, often contradicting itself (such as articles
claiming sectarianism doesn’t’ exist while another refers to “Taigs
with Typewriters), but still manages to spray out a stream of incensed
fury at the whole spectrum of Scottish society that is deemed to be
engaged in a brutal oppression of Rangers traditions (hating Catholics)
and culture (pissing in the street).
Whether it’s politicians (everyone except David "Expenses Scandal" McLetchie),
the SFA, the SPL, the Tartan Army (“cowards” apparently), the media
(yes the whole lot.. oh except David Leggat ex of the Sunday People),
the Establishment, David Murray, The Universe, everyone is engaged in a
Hidden Agenda; no doubt part of the gloriously amusing Cowardly Hand of
Hidden Forces (or something like that), so cherished by their fellow
paranoiacs over at the RST".
A little exaggeration goes a long long way, and it’s a fair attempt, I’ll grant
them, however, while opinion is at the heart of much of Vanguard’s
output, we have a core philosophy of providing facts in our articles.
This, and the fact we actually raise these issues, is clearly what
incenses the writer.
The lies continue…
“Rarely does football get a look in and quite rightly for that would blow the
whole satire, but even when it does the inspired minds at Vanguard Bear
can pull it off with aplomb. In one article, Bluenose Campbell’s
Memories (pt 3), we have an tremendous parody of Rangers conspiracy
theorists with a tale of how Alex Ferguson tipped of Jock Stein
regarding Davie White’s game plan for the 1969 Scottish Cup Final
(which Celtic won 4-0, the cheats!). Further on in the same article
Rangers’ Cup Winners Cup triumph in Barcelona is mentioned without any
reference at all to the resulting scenes with saw Rangers disgraced in
Europe and their own support famously lambasted as “tikes, hooligans,
louts and drunkards” by the then manager Wille Waddell. You won’t find
any better historical airbrushing from any genuine Rangers site out
there!”
From a Celtic site with countless articles solely about Rangers one has to laugh. Our site’s content is primarily football, primarily Rangers, and is in the process
of being the only Rangers site to show a collection of Rangers
memorabilia unrivalled in the world.
Barcelona is well documented, but you have to laugh. Seriously, we all know that the
Rangers fans fought back against Franco’s Fascist Police in 1972, but,
in all honesty, a Rangers fan’s account of their times following the
club including it is about as likely as having the writer on etims
boast about the Celtic fans’ propensity to find themselves in trouble
everywhere they travel. Their account would be twelve times as long
too, and they’d run out of bandspace.
If you want to check out these two useful links, you could have enough reading for days on end about TGFITW.
http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
http://sweepingsince1888.blogspot.com/
The continuing attack on Blue Tumai, sees the full invective of hatred come to the fore, with the writer in classic rant mode.
“The Tartan Army we are told by BT is a “national embarrassment”, this
supposedly coming from a Rangers supporter is comic genius! BT fumes
that prior to the Italy game at Hampden there were “Thousands of guys
so pissed they can’t walk, vomiting, urinating in the streets, exposing
their bare bums and c**ks to any passer by that happens to look in
their direction.” I had to double check that I wasn’t reading a report
of the behaviour of Rangers supporters in Manchester (prior to the
rioting), but that of course was the intent all along, at least I think
it was. I say I think it was due to the fact that BT creates the
impression that Manchester, like the aforementioned rioting in
Barcelona, simply never happened. Denial being a noted feature of
Rangers supporters when it comes to awkward dents in the Dignity
Plaque, such as the insistance from some that there never was a
sectarian signing policy at Ibrox, means this is just a marvellous
piece of cutting comedy.”
BT’s article has really got under the skin of this writer, and one can only assume
that he has absolutely no knowledge that Rangers fans tend not to wear
Kilts and flash their hosts on their travels. Oh, well, on with the
fantasy…
“Elsewhere we have BT again burning
with vengeful wrath over Rangers failure to defend their lovely
supporters signing The Billy Boys, yes that loveable ditty celebrating
wading through Catholic blood”
Yes, it’s that old chestnut. I actually find it rather amusing, that people have
gone to the lengths of contacting the Dictionary houses to demand that
the definition of the word “fenian” be updated to mean Catholic,
decades after a song was penned referencing the Fenian movement.
You couldn’t make it up. Sadly, I didn’t.
Trust me, if I were to continue picking holes in their article I’d be here
all night. Frankly, I’ve not got the time or the inclination, so I’ve
cherry picked the high (or low) lights of the rest.
“Another article by one Bouncy, takes it even further by lambasting Murray for
failing to publicly defend Donald Findlay, for singing The Billy Boys
at a wine and cheese soirée with the Copland glitterati: "Murray should
have been stronger, I say stronger, he never uttered a word did he, in
defending HIS vice chairman from the mhedia hordes and MOPE backlash
that happened." Of course Murray might have had a problem allowing his
vice-chairman to remain for an offence they were, allegedly, banning
supporters for but what the hell, it makes a good read anyway.”
A nice little bit of opportunism now on Bouncy’s article. Sadly, Bouncy
was incorrect, as I’m sure the writer knows too. Findlay was hounded
out for singing “The Sash”, which has been proven in a court of law NOT
to be sectarian. This is all the more reason that Murray should have
defended Findlay.
“I could go on, but trust me on this, never have I enjoyed a site more, not even the sadly defunct Losers.org - and that had me guffawing into the small hours
each night. There isn't a wealth of material it has to be said, but
what the site lacks in quantity it more than makes up for in quality.
Whether it's confusing David Murray's alleged enforced resignation as
club chairman by the club's main creditor after Rangers debt reached
£75m with finding a fall guy to take the flak (McClelland), or being
unable to fathom why someone explaining why Celtic supporters sing
political songs isn't treated in the same manner as a club official
bawling out a banned sectarian anthem, or even the simply outstandingly
presented 'unintentional' hypocrisy of declaring that Celtic supporters
have "a natural tendency to lie, deny and deflect", the level attained
in this monument to satirical invention cannot be equalled. A
masterpiece.”
Political Songs? Need I say more? In fact, I’ll let the reader judge.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgphfxuqOc...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvgphfxuqOc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Bs5GSqIzg...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPBOX0hZtPM...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WszYrVGdPek...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYJ2JOGkF0o
VanguardBears
PS Thanks for the publicity.
horrible
Die schämem sich für nichts.
ja da hat der Grün-Graue nicht mit gerechnet. mal sehen,hoffentlich trifft es so ein!*hoffe* 
